I am not surprised. I would say that our position is the one that is stranger, at least for any creature that was born into the light... So, yes, I shall have to see what efforts have been made already.

[ He does have some thoughts about how to accomplish this in what he would call a brute force method, but he keeps those to himself. While possible, they're not the sort he prefers in the slightest. He'd genuinely much rather simply talk and have them convince themselves of their position, since it would stick much more than something more, well. Demonic, to put it simply. ]

So, to that note, what would those points be?