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koriel xii. (dextera) ([personal profile] passio) wrote in [community profile] aionchat2022-06-06 10:41 pm

to the pleroma (text)

[ it’s not an intentional attempt at anonymity. dextera just has no experience with this kind of broad communication, and to him, there’s little point in introducing himself anyway. those who have met him may be able to recognize the emotional “signature” attached to the words newly displayed in their minds, and may be able even to attach the soft sound of his breath or the perpetually-uncertain expression he wears to the message he knows is about to be contentious.

but, it’s been bothering him since the events in venera. perhaps the seed was planted even before that, from his very first experience with the kenoma and having the pleroma overtake it to save him in the end. ]


Are we wrong?

[ it’s… actually not what he wanted to open with, but the panic of broadcasting a message so publicly has him blurting things out even through what should be the most temperate of mediums. ]

The Regent said it was the Pleroma that caused the disease in Venera. That force wanted us to live forever in delusion. I don’t want to destroy the world. I don’t want to make a new one either. I was happy there. I would have been happy there.

The distilled Kenoma tried to manipulate our thoughts. Didn’t you all feel that power when we escaped? The Hope that allowed us to fight? Are we still being manipulated?
locumstudentesquire: (He's withering)

[personal profile] locumstudentesquire 2022-06-06 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Um... Sorry to ask this so pointedly, but. Are you alright?

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dragonmount: (🔆 036.)

[personal profile] dragonmount 2022-06-06 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
[ he's also a little off-balance, these days, about what he thinks of the kenoma. a little seed of doubt, if one he'd never admit to having. there are a lot of things he could say to this, but he chooses the point that feels the most practical. ]

We weren't all there when the Regent's forces had you. Some of us came later, willingly. Would you call that manipulation?

[ it'd be nice to say that he 'said' that calmly. but the communion means that the faint undercurrent of his anger is a palpable thing, even if it isn't actually directed at dextera. ]
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aquaveiled: (himeka-215)

[personal profile] aquaveiled 2022-06-06 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
You think that we're still under the control of the Kenoma?

[ Being tempered by a more powerful being? More likely than you'd think. ]

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[personal profile] coerthantorment 2022-06-06 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
[In some ways, a message like this may have been primed to enrage Estinien, as strained as he already is. Yet, as he reads it, his own lived experience tells him that it's not actually bad to question these kinds of elemental forces and what they represent. At least as it's phrased here, Dextera's worries don't seem unreasonable.]

Any elemental force brought about in excess is harmful.

[He's facing the consequences of that right now, after all. Whatever that Innocence creature was, it was too much, and the balance of his aether has been thrown off in a way he still isn't sure is recoverable.]

Yet, I feel we arrived at our conclusions despite manipulation rather than because of it. The Regent did their best to force our decisions, to enslave us to their side, and yet we overcame. I care not for the Pleroma as more than a means to the end... and my end is unchanging. I would not see my home sacrificed for someone else's ambition.

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goldendeceiver: (god knows you put your life)

[personal profile] goldendeceiver 2022-06-06 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure it's a great idea to trust any words that came from the Regent personally. The disease was hitting hardest in a city none of us had ever been to, so it doesn't make much sense to heap the responsibility onto us.

As for if we're still being manipulated or not...


[ This one takes a bit of an uncomfortable ponder to mull over. ]

There's probably no way to say for sure we aren't, but if nothing else this one doesn't come with the messy strings of a dictator attached to it. Not that it makes the idea of potentially being manipulated any better. Haha.

Honestly, I don't really want to be part of any of this either. There are more capable people from my world that should have ended up in my shoes instead, but none of us got much say in the matter. I don't think anyone from this side will fault you too much if you decide you're done with it and refuse to fight, but you might still have to do some running to avoid the Kenoma.

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[personal profile] salvageable 2022-06-06 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Ah, Dokja recognizes who it is that's sent this communion, and he's left a bit unbalanced by the weight of such a message. He's no stranger to being manipulated, so while he can relate in some ways...

The right words, comforting words, have always failed him and so he knows they'll fail him again here. ]


What's up with such a gloomy message? You're not holed up in a corner somewhere, are you?

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inutilis: (✞ booming voices.)

[personal profile] inutilis 2022-06-06 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
...Dextera?

[ Abel's voice carries the probing, prickling sensation of a worry behind it, the niggle of concern underlaid by a quieter uneasiness. his friend's distress is clear as day to see, but beyond that - there is validity in doubting and fearing such things Abel would feel wrong to outright refute.

one thing at a time, he supposes. ]


Where are you, right now?

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[personal profile] snakeandfangs 2022-06-06 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if we're not wrong, but I know that I'm not wrong.

[ whether dextera's lack of confidence is bolstering toge's... ]

It's easy to cast blame on someone else when you don't have all the information. I can't say I know everything myself, but delusion is a harsh word.

What it wanted... I think was the only thing it believed was right.

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[personal profile] hippocarnival 2022-06-06 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ooh. Yuya opts to respond with voice, because maybe a gentle tone will help soothe his worries. At least to not spiral into a panic.]

I don't think protecting the universe that exists is wrong. No matter what, I don't think we're wrong for that.

That being... it's gone for now. I felt it, when I... when I got infected. It wasn't the same as in the cave. And I don't think it was acting on any will but it's own.

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[ There's some initial hesitance in his response — long, drawn out thoughtfulness as he considers the weight; It's not something he hasn't thought about. He'd been told about, but at first registered it in meaning of the Aions themselves and yet: ]

Honestly, we've only been here a couple of months and from the moment we got here were told to choose one or the other. I think it'd be more crazy not to question these kinds of things; We're expected to fight someone else's war with only the information we're given.

[ Which isn't a lot. And frankly, while he can't agree with destroying the universe — can't believe Berk and everyone on it is gone — he also can't find himself disagreeing the cycle of life needs to continue. ]

I think... Rather you're manipulated or not will be dependent on how you choose to live here? If you choose to fight or choose to live.

But I get it, this isn't the world I want to live in or with the people I'd like — No matter if they're great people. I was happy in my own home.


[ Well, maybe there's some flittering there. Happy isn't the best word for when he came from, but he'd never think of abandoning Berk, Toothless, Astrid, or any of the others. ]

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[personal profile] regretsor 2022-06-06 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Does it matter if we might be right or wrong?

[He hadn't communion with the other last time and had spoken outwardly.]

Right or wrong. I don't think it can be applied to something like this. In someone's story, someone is always going to be a hero and someone else will be a villain. In that sense, the villain is always wrong to make the hero be in the right. It's subjective.

[One could hear the click of his tongue.]

We don't know how true the Regent's claims and to act as though it is solely our fault is farfetched at best. [Why would it just be because of the Pleroma? What makes the Kenoma be free of fault?] In the end, why are we to be treated as the cause when we were brought here against our own will? What will you do if we are being manipulated?

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[personal profile] superbshot 2022-06-07 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
No, we're not wrong. The Regent is blaming the Pleroma for propaganda purposes, to justify their own ends.

I felt the same surge of hope, and I refuse to accept that what we were accepted to was done by the 'correct' force here on this world. That ritual was vile, and the treatment we were subjected to was nothing short of evil. It may be a simplistic worldview, but the Regent's forces showed themselves to be agents of evil from the start.

If we are being manipulated, we're being manipulated in a way that places us in opposition to evil.
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I don't think promoting life is necessarily wrong. In the same way that I don't think that having something that resembles hope is wrong.

However, promoting life to the point of taking away agency is wrong. I certainly didn't get fed the distilled...kenoma, did you say? And below help me, I tried to talk to the Kenoma, before I came here. I don't know how I could have been manipulated to choose this side.


[ A pause, thoughtful. ]

It isn't as if the other option is less wrong -- the destruction of anything and everything is far worse in my opinion -- although you're welcome to disagree, if you're questioning how right we are in action.

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comelately: (your warmth is in my bed)

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[ Text? They can do that? Mentally, the difference is almost imperceptible, but he can understand the words without seeing or hearing them regardless. He doesn't recognize them as coming from the guy he met in the bar back when he first got here, for better or for worse. ]

I think we're all here because we were happy on our old worlds. Or "could have been happy."

[ he's also in that category. ]

You're on this side 'cause you need to go back, right? It's not about being right or wrong. It's about getting where you need to go.

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youngprodigy: (∄ does that mean i am the)

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Maybe we're being manipulated, maybe not.

But I know one thing: there's someone I want to get back to, and if the Regent gets their way, I'll never see him again.

[Dextra will be able to feel how ambivalent Cid is about everything. Their worlds could very well already be gone.]

I know little about tempering save for the fact that those that become tempered are slavishly devoted to whatever does the tempering. It has to do with the body becoming out of balance; aether of too much of one element can have catastrophic results. They'll end up doing things they'd never do in their right minds.

[Though he doesn't elaborate, the sharp sadness that comes from him makes it very obvious he's talking from personal experience.]

Those of us who are Pleroma... well, we're naught but people who refused the Kenoma's desire to see everything ended. The fact that we can even have this conversation means I don't think we're being manipulated.

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[personal profile] traversal 2022-06-07 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I don't think we were wrong.

If anything, it's most likely the other way around.


[ there's a very long pause as she tries to choose her words carefully based on the things she's read back in venera. she wants to be logical about this, at least, if only because emotions will not bring anything to the table. ]

There had been a string of incidents in the past, similar curses or afflictions, in the wake of challenges against the Regent and the empire. While there were no decrees announcing these actions, isn't it strange how it almost always seemed to have happened after there had been resistance against that ... being?

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a tactic employed by them to question our own beliefs.

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Undoubtedly, you'll receive more optimistic appraisals. And maybe there's merit to that, but I think it's good to question like you're doing.

Are we still being manipulated? I think by the nature of being here, yes.

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coupris: (isn't that bizarre)

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[The waves of distress are palpable through the Communion, so Kim can only hope his evenness carries over it.]

No side is going to have absolute good or absolute evil. Everyone has their own reasons for choosing a side.

However, I think it's safe to say that we can't trust anything the Regent tells us.

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